Wednesday, October 15, 2008

The creation WAS subjected to futility

Romans 8
17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs--heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.
18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.
19 The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed.
20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope
21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.
22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.
23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.

I read verse 20 to Hugh Ross (an old Earth creationist) and stressed that the creation WAS subjected to futility and asked him WHEN did this happen?

He said that it was created in futility!

In Genesis 3:17,18 God cursed the ground.
"To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,' "Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field."

In Genesis 5:29 this curse is referred to as an historical event tied to the fall.
"He named him Noah and said, "He will comfort us in the labor and painful toil of our hands caused by the ground the LORD has cursed."

The curse is tied to the fall. The Earth, as we see it today, is under the curse and is NOT the same as when Adam and Eve first walked upon it.

Hugh Ross performs eisigesis (reading his beliefs into the text) rather than exegesis (reading the text for what it says or means). The thrust of Romans 8 calls for an understanding of the Earth being "perfect" and then being "fallen" after the sin of Adam and Eve.

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